Looking for ideas for a winter stove

Jim_Parkin

Ultralighter
UK cold - 7 and a cold wind last weekend after a run on helvellyn, I had my trangia last weekend, only took the mini and suffered with lack of windshield

That's what I don't like about the mini. That and the fact that the burner tends to sit on the bottom, so heat is lost to the ground
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
That's what I don't like about the mini. That and the fact that the burner tends to sit on the bottom, so heat is lost to the ground
I bought a mini for the pan set.
It seemed obvious to me that it needed a windshield to perform effectively outdoors. A windshield of stiff foil makes a massive difference. I used the mini pot stand and burner plus foil windshield with an old AGG 2quart pot, and it's a great large capacity water boiler.

I planned to make a cone for the mini pot, but just ended up adding the Non stick fry pan to my Evernew 900 sidewinder cone setup it packs in the bag on the base of the pan, and sits on top of the cone for cooking.

But a trangia burner itself is a lot of metal to heat in freezing weather if sat directly on cold ground-I mean it's losing heat to the ground quite easily compared to say a lighter Wick stove.
 
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Whiteburn

Thru Hiker
That's what I don't like about the mini. That and the fact that the burner tends to sit on the bottom, so heat is lost to the ground
Picked up a mini from the local charity shop about 10years ago for £2......thought it was a good buy...……...after one use it was back to the charity shop.
 

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
Picked up a mini from the local charity shop about 10years ago for £2......thought it was a good buy...……...after one use it was back to the charity shop.

The non-stick fry pan on the mini is a good un' - and fits as a lid on a couple of pots I have - most usefully on the AGG 2 cup hard anaodised pot :).
 

Jim_Parkin

Ultralighter
I bought a mini for the pan set.
It seemed obvious to me that it needed a windshield to perform effectively outdoors. A windshield of stiff foil makes a massive difference. I used the mini pot stand and burner plus foil windshield with an old AGG 2quart pot, and it's a great large capacity water boiler.

I planned to make a cone for the mini pot, but just ended up adding the Non stick fry pan to my Evernew 900 sidewinder cone setup it packs in the bag on the base of the pan, and sits on top of the cone for cooking.

But a trangia burner itself is a lot of metal to heat in freezing weather if sat directly on cold ground-I mean it's losing heat to the ground quite easily compared to say a lighter Wick stove.


Oh yes, I couldn't see how it wouldn't need a windshield, but thought that as (I think Trangia) described the stand as a "windshield", I'd give it a try in a fairly calm summer's day in my garden. Which worked about as well as you'd guess.

The pot, pan and gripper are pretty good, though.
 

Jim_Parkin

Ultralighter
As a summer stove, I did find that the mini with a tall windshield and an aluminum foil pie dish on top was able to boil water and heat my croissants simultaneously.
 

Michael_x

Section Hiker
IME a 100g canister (Pocket Rocket stove) will only boil around 5-6L of water in summer = 2.5 - 3L of snow melt. I'll normally trust a 230 canister to only last 3 - 4 days in winter.


UK cold was -13C last time I was out in the 'gorms (10 days ago)..........Caldera Cone + MYO alcohol stove worked fine.

Quick update on my experience with Alpkit Koro. Temp -5c, good wind shielding, inverted. Fuel was maybe 85% butane, 15% propane. Two freeze dried meals and five hot drinks. Just over 2 litres boiled from snow. Gas usage 75 grams.

Interestingly heating the pre heat tube with a lighter for a while prior to lighting makes it light much easier and less yellow puddle of barely burning liquid butane.
 

Mole

Thru Hiker
Quick update on my experience with Alpkit Koro. Temp -5c, good wind shielding, inverted. Fuel was maybe 85% butane, 15% propane. Two freeze dried meals and five hot drinks. Just over 2 litres boiled from snow. Gas usage 75 grams.

Interestingly heating the pre heat tube with a lighter for a while prior to lighting makes it light much easier and less yellow puddle of barely burning liquid butane.
Useful info. Especially preheating the preheat tube!

Thirstier gas usage it would seem due to melting snow useing it up. I'd guess that was around 2.5litres of water boiled? Normally I'd expect to use 40-50g gas in above freezing conditions with a cartridge top stove n windshield...
 

Michael_x

Section Hiker
Useful info. Especially preheating the preheat tube!

Thirstier gas usage it would seem due to melting snow useing it up. I'd guess that was around 2.5litres of water boiled? Normally I'd expect to use 40-50g gas in above freezing conditions with a cartridge top stove n windshield...
I didn't keep an exact track of water quantity boiling at the time so I got a measuring jug just now and reconstructed from memory. Turns out pan a little larger than I thought so, yes, a tadge over 2.5litres.

You have to take into account that (1). I use a G-Works gas saver to refill so the gas was a mix of pure butane from those cheap cp250 style cartridges and some Aldi 70/30 blow torch cartridges that were going silly cheap. Not very efficient. And (2). I'm a mostly 3 season hillwalker slowly transitioning into staying out overnight so my gas usage is undoubtedly higher than could be achieved by a more skilled and experienced stove artist.
 

Big Si

Trail Blazer
Out of the 350 ish stoves I own (Get Me) I would recommend the Optimus Polaris. Very multi-fuel biased. Whatever stove you use, use it often and know how it works and how to service it. After all IIRC in the 50's and 60's they were using small paraffin stoves to go up Everest.

Si
 
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